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Dudley's dungeon -- Wednesday, 26 January, 2005

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Wednesday, 26 January, 2005 by Dion Nicolaas
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Jmesh January 26, 2005 00:25
First comment: 22 July, 2004 14 comments written
Woo @ first post of day
Jmesh January 26, 2005 00:26
First comment: 22 July, 2004 14 comments written
Another point to team JMesh!
Khirsah January 26, 2005 02:32
First comment: 26 January, 2005 5 comments written
...Wow. If you get excited over that, JMesh, you must have a life that makes us "Nethack nerds" look like death[Pestilence:] And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals,
and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four
beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white
horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given
unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

[War:] And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the
second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another
horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon
to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one
another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

[Famine:] And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the
third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black
horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his
hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say,
A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley
for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

[Death:] And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the
voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and
behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death,
and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over
the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with
hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
[ Revelations of John, 6:1-8 ]

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-defying daredevils.
Violist January 26, 2005 03:29
First comment: 25 June, 2004 206 comments written
Woo! I'm going to go nethack skydiving without a paracuhte! Death[Pestilence:] And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals,
and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four
beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white
horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given
unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

[War:] And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the
second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another
horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon
to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one
another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

[Famine:] And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the
third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black
horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his
hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say,
A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley
for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

[Death:] And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the
voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and
behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death,
and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over
the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with
hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
[ Revelations of John, 6:1-8 ]

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-defying, here I come...

Jmesh: are you a slashdotter? I'm feeling a little outclassed in terms of no life.. sniffle
Nesman January 26, 2005 05:11
First comment: 4 January, 2005 112 comments written
I'm pretty new to NetHack and not sure what happened here. Could somebody explain?
Violist January 26, 2005 06:05
First comment: 25 June, 2004 206 comments written
I'm not sure, actually. The past few comics have rather confused me, I'm sure all will become clear soon. Also, it must be difficult to keep coming up with comic ideas.. I feel like I should submit one...
Nameless January 26, 2005 07:01
First comment: 29 December, 2004 281 comments written
LOL I found this one quite amusing, and great insight into Nethack. Now I think of it the AoY doesn't actually do that much usefull, and has far for dangers than benefits to actually use it.
Matt M P January 26, 2005 08:08
First comment: 13 October, 2004 23 comments written
I just think of the AoY like Frodo's ringThree Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne,
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
        [ The Fellowship of the Ring, by J.R.R. Tolkien ]

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. It didn't do much on the outside other than make Frodo invisible, but it did seem to create all sorts of problems... still waiting for the twist ending though...
Netaddict January 26, 2005 08:44
First comment: 14 April, 2004 34 comments written
I think it is referring to the mysterious force in this comic, although there are several other drawbacks to possessing this "powerful" artifact..
Coffee Zombie January 26, 2005 09:21
First comment: 11 June, 2004 18 comments written
Comment to JMesh:

Well well! It seems we'll be seing more of you then?
Since you've figured out how to get past the questions I'll protest that you are no longer a trollThe troll shambled closer. He was perhaps eight feet tall,
perhaps more. His forward stoop, with arms dangling past
thick claw-footed legs to the ground, made it hard to tell.
The hairless green skin moved upon his body. His head was a
gash of a mouth, a yard-long nose, and two eyes which drank
the feeble torchlight and never gave back a gleam.
[...]
Like a huge green spider, the troll's severed hand ran on its
fingers. Across the mounded floor, up onto a log with one
taloned forefinger to hook it over the bark, down again it
scrambled, until it found the cut wrist. And there it grew
fast. The troll's smashed head seethed and knit together.
He clambered back on his feet and grinned at them. The
waning faggot cast red light over his fangs.
        [ Three Hearts and Three Lions, by Poul Anderson ]

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! You must have mysteriously evolved into another kind of being.
I know this must be so, since the average trollThe troll shambled closer. He was perhaps eight feet tall,
perhaps more. His forward stoop, with arms dangling past
thick claw-footed legs to the ground, made it hard to tell.
The hairless green skin moved upon his body. His head was a
gash of a mouth, a yard-long nose, and two eyes which drank
the feeble torchlight and never gave back a gleam.
[...]
Like a huge green spider, the troll's severed hand ran on its
fingers. Across the mounded floor, up onto a log with one
taloned forefinger to hook it over the bark, down again it
scrambled, until it found the cut wrist. And there it grew
fast. The troll's smashed head seethed and knit together.
He clambered back on his feet and grinned at them. The
waning faggot cast red light over his fangs.
        [ Three Hearts and Three Lions, by Poul Anderson ]

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has a hard time understanding the concept of a doorThrough me you pass into the city of woe:
Through me you pass into eternal pain:
Through me among the people lost for aye.
Justice the founder of my fabric mov'd:
To rear me was the task of power divine,
Supremest wisdom, and primeval love.
Before me things create were none, save things
Eternal, and eternal I endure.
All hope abandon ye who enter here.
        [ The Inferno, from The Divine Comedy of Dante
                Alighieri, translated by H.F. Cary ]

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, and absolute no understanding of passwords...
You are perhaps now a fiend? or an imp ... imps ... little creatures of two feet high that could
gambol and jump prodigiously; ...
        [ The Charwoman's Shadow, by Lord Dunsany ]

An 'imp' is an off-shoot or cutting. Thus an 'ymp tree' was
a grafted tree, or one grown from a cutting, not from seed.
'Imp' properly means a small devil, an off-shoot of Satan,
but the distinction between goblins or bogles and imps from
hell is hard to make, and many in the Celtic countries as
well as the English Puritans regarded all fairies as devils.
The fairies of tradition often hover uneasily between the
ghostly and the diabolic state.
        [ A Dictionary of Fairies, by Katharine Briggs ]

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? what would you best like to be seen as?

As for some of your postings being irritating... well... I'm a father of three kids whose favorite passtime is running around the house fighting each other, screaming out loud - and generally making as much noise as possible trying to extract the maximum amount of attention to themselves...
Let's just say you'll have a hard time trying to piss me off.

B.t.w. have you ever played Diablo? Did you then notice the similarity of the gameplay of nethack and Diablo? Are you angry with Diablo players as well?

Let me finish by doing something that may offend the regular posters here, but something that I find is in the spirit of nethack - given the all-embracing nature of the net-hacking universe, lawfulneutralchaotic.
I'll just say: Hello JMesh, welcome to NetHack! :-)
Coffee Zombie January 26, 2005 09:24
First comment: 11 June, 2004 18 comments written
hm.. "lawfulneutralchaotic" should have been "lawful/neutral/chaotic"...
Schnee January 26, 2005 09:24
First comment: 10 November, 2004 76 comments written
"first post" isn't such a big accomplishment when thre usually only is at most one post every couple of hours, anyway. :)
freshme@ January 26, 2005 09:54
First comment: 4 January, 2005 67 comments written
Nesman and Violist:

When you carry the Amulet of YendorThis mysterious talisman is the object of your quest. It is
said to possess powers which mere mortals can scarcely
comprehend, let alone utilize. The gods will grant the gift of
immortality to the adventurer who can deliver it from the
depths of Moloch's Sanctum and offer it on the appropriate high
altar on the Astral Plane.

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there is an annoying tendency to random teleportation. You're trying to leave Gehennom and the Dungeons, and you keep getting teleported back to the "down" stairs. (Not having gotten that far myself, I don't know if the teleportation is only on the same level, or if you may also be level teleported down.) Anyway, it can get frustrating, especially if the WizardEbenezum walked before me along the closest thing we could
find to a path in these overgrown woods. Every few paces he
would pause, so that I, burdened with a pack stuffed with
arcane and heavy paraphernalia, could catch up with his
wizardly strides. He, as usual, carried nothing, preferring,
as he often said, to keep his hands free for quick conjuring
and his mind free for the thoughts of a mage.
        [ A Dealing with Demons, by Craig Shaw Gardner ]

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keeps appearing to try to take the Amulet"The complete Amulet can keep off all the things that make
people unhappy -- jealousy, bad temper, pride, disagreeableness,
greediness, selfishness, laziness. Evil spirits, people called
them when the Amulet was made. Don't you think it would be nice
to have it?"
"Very," said the children, quite without enthusiasm.
"And it can give you strength and courage."
"That's better," said Cyril.
"And virtue."
"I suppose it's nice to have that," said Jane, but not with much
interest.
"And it can give you your heart's desire."
"Now you're talking," said Robert.
        [ The Story of the Amulet, by Edith Nesbit ]

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back. (Apparently he's something of a pickpocket.)
Violist January 26, 2005 15:58
First comment: 25 June, 2004 206 comments written
freshma@: makes sense.. it's really annoying when you keep going down instead of up..

Cofee ZombieThe zombi... is a soulless human corpse, still dead, but
taken from the grave and endowed by sorcery with a
mechanical semblance of life, -- it is a dead body which is
made to walk and act and move as if it were alive.
        [ W. B. Seabrook ]

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: it's oK with me if you want to welcome someone who's graduated from trolldom..
Sedge January 26, 2005 22:26
First comment: 18 January, 2005 11 comments written
The AoY is particularly annoying if you're lawful, because it has a high change of teleporting you back up to -three- levels, which makes it a run for your luck when you try to get out to the elementalElementals are manifestations of the basic nature of the
universe. There are four known forms of elementals: air, fire,
water, and earth. Some mystics have postulated the necessity
for a fifth type, the spirit elemental, but none have ever
been encountered, at least on this plane of existence.

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planes.
Of course, that's balanced by the fact that lawful characters don't have to deal with all the archons' "summon nasties" spells on the air and astral planes.
I don't see why the gods find it so great, when it's cursed. Heck, I think Set would be happier with a few amulets of life saving.
Rob Barber, Tamer of a Digital One January 26, 2005 23:51
First comment: 26 January, 2005 1 comments written
The "bad stuff" is just the Amulet"The complete Amulet can keep off all the things that make
people unhappy -- jealousy, bad temper, pride, disagreeableness,
greediness, selfishness, laziness. Evil spirits, people called
them when the Amulet was made. Don't you think it would be nice
to have it?"
"Very," said the children, quite without enthusiasm.
"And it can give you strength and courage."
"That's better," said Cyril.
"And virtue."
"I suppose it's nice to have that," said Jane, but not with much
interest.
"And it can give you your heart's desire."
"Now you're talking," said Robert.
        [ The Story of the Amulet, by Edith Nesbit ]

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's failsafes, which affect only mortals. Gods are not affected by those failsafes.
Violist January 27, 2005 00:59
First comment: 25 June, 2004 206 comments written
There seriously ought to be a level where you go godGoddesses and Gods operate in ones, threesomes, or whole
pantheons of nine or more (see Religion). Most of them claim
to have made the world, and this is indeed a likely claim in
the case of threesomes or pantheons: Fantasyland does have
the air of having been made by a committee. But all Goddesses
and Gods, whether they say they made the world or not, have
very detailed short-term plans for it which they are determined
to carry out. Consequently they tend to push people into the
required actions by the use of coincidence or Prophecy, or just
by narrowing down your available choices of what to do next:
if a deity is pushing you, things will go miserably badly until
there is only one choice left to you.
[ The Tough Guide to Fantasyland, by Diana Wynne Jones ]

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-slaying, or at least get some good divine fights going.
Jmesh January 27, 2005 17:38
First comment: 22 July, 2004 14 comments written
I'd like to point out that the people trolling these comments often calling themselves 'JMesh' or 'Jmesh' are impersonating me. Please can you ignore them. I am going to stop showing Dudley's Dungeon to random people who have never head of NetHack. Thanks.
E January 27, 2005 19:15
First comment: 2 September, 2004 34 comments written
the amulet"The complete Amulet can keep off all the things that make
people unhappy -- jealousy, bad temper, pride, disagreeableness,
greediness, selfishness, laziness. Evil spirits, people called
them when the Amulet was made. Don't you think it would be nice
to have it?"
"Very," said the children, quite without enthusiasm.
"And it can give you strength and courage."
"That's better," said Cyril.
"And virtue."
"I suppose it's nice to have that," said Jane, but not with much
interest.
"And it can give you your heart's desire."
"Now you're talking," said Robert.
        [ The Story of the Amulet, by Edith Nesbit ]

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only teleports you in Gehennom. It does telport you down levels, and only when you are trying to go up a level. A helm of opposite allignment is often used by lawfuls to get out of Gehennom, as the teleport is not only less often but you go down less levels as well. Its annoying, but at this point in the game its never killed me. Im a packrat so at this point i have more than enough telport charges on wands that it provide as aonly a minor annoyance.
JMesh January 27, 2005 21:38
First comment: 22 January, 2005 9 comments written
Gotta hate my schizophrenia! That last post was my alternative self and this post is me, as was that but the me in this post is a different me to that that claims to be me in the other post by me, which as discussed was by me, but not by me.
ihope May 11, 2005 21:16
First comment: 20 April, 2005 67 comments written
That acually made sense. Try more me's next time.
Jmesh June 3, 2005 01:31
First comment: 22 July, 2004 14 comments written
Mememememe
tracer June 22, 2005 20:36
First comment: 22 June, 2005 32 comments written
Dudley got as far as defeating the Wiz, and he doesn't have a ring ofThree Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne,
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
        [ The Fellowship of the Ring, by J.R.R. Tolkien ]

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teleport control
yet?
Fathead April 17, 2006 20:48
First comment: 1 April, 2006 1136 comments written
Zzzzzz...
Donut Lord December 1, 2006 23:13
First comment: 1 December, 2006 26 comments written
JMesh: 1 Everyone else: 1,250,700,982,555,102,561,340,199
Grognor April 7, 2007 08:07
First comment: 4 April, 2007 1161 comments written
Donut Lord: 2,793,414,710,785,413,410,259
Grognor: 2,793,414,710,785,413,410,259.1
HK June 20, 2007 19:27
First comment: 1 June, 2007 309 comments written
JMesh: 1
Everyone else: 1,250,700,982,555,102,561,340,200.1
HK June 20, 2007 19:28
First comment: 1 June, 2007 309 comments written
JMesh: 1
Everyone else: 1,250,700,982,555,102,561,340,200.1
Sorry, I forgot to rate the first time.
Newtkiller January 16, 2009 05:53
First comment: 28 October, 2008 127 comments written
The best thing is to be a wizardEbenezum walked before me along the closest thing we could
find to a path in these overgrown woods. Every few paces he
would pause, so that I, burdened with a pack stuffed with
arcane and heavy paraphernalia, could catch up with his
wizardly strides. He, as usual, carried nothing, preferring,
as he often said, to keep his hands free for quick conjuring
and his mind free for the thoughts of a mage.
        [ A Dealing with Demons, by Craig Shaw Gardner ]

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, with teleportnig and teleport control. Then you can easily teleport yourself from upstairs to upstairs.

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