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Wednesday, 15 December, 2004 by Dion Nicolaas
                    
                    
                    
                    
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@ "I decided to stop wondering where all the gear in the dungeon comes from..."
                    
                    
                    
                    
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   /  REST IN   \   
  /    PEACE     \  
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 |     Dudley     | 
 |   killed by    | 
 |   touching     | 
 |  StormbringerThere were sounds in the distance, incongruent with the
sounds of even this nameless, timeless sea: thin sounds,
agonized and terrible, for all that they remained remote -
yet the ship followed them, as if drawn by them; they grew
louder - pain and despair were there, but terror was
predominant.
Elric had heard such sounds echoing from his cousin Yyrkoon's
sardonically named 'Pleasure Chambers' in the days before he
had fled the responsibilities of ruling all that remained of
the old Melnibonean Empire. These were the voices of men
whose very souls were under siege; men to whom death meant
not mere extinction, but a continuation of existence, forever
in thrall to some cruel and supernatural master. He had
heard men cry so when his salvation and his nemesis, his
great black battle-blade Stormbringer, drank their souls.
        [ The Lands Beyond the World, by Michael Moorcock ]

Copyright (c) 1994, 1995, 1996 by the NetHack Development Team
Copyright (c) 1994 by Boudewijn Wayers
NetHack may be freely redistributed. See license for details.
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Christopher December 15, 2004 00:28
First comment: 10 May, 2004 30 comments written
Dudley's lawful? He always seemed chaotic to me...
Schnee December 15, 2004 01:51
First comment: 10 November, 2004 76 comments written
Alignment is an illusion (and one of the worst atrocities ever introduced to the roleplaying world by (A)D&D).
Violist December 15, 2004 06:43
First comment: 25 June, 2004 206 comments written
Alignment isn't that bad, is it?
Mantar December 15, 2004 07:33
First comment: 17 June, 2004 197 comments written
There's nothing wrong with alignment. It's just a simple yardstick for your character's outlook, nothing more.
DraconicBlessing December 15, 2004 09:23
First comment: 22 November, 2004 5 comments written
Alignment is a good idea, which is generally badly handled.
Crawler December 15, 2004 19:30
First comment: 24 August, 2004 57 comments written
My personal way of handling alignment badly : always play chaotic neutral characters...and do as I please from there, based on roleplay, not pigeon-holes!
Mantar December 16, 2004 06:21
First comment: 17 June, 2004 197 comments written
Alignment isn't supposed to be a pigeonhole, it's supposed to describe your character's general personality as it is under normal circumstances. If your character's all over the map, protecting the innocent one minute and then murdering passersby the next, then you may not be playing a well-centered and believable personality.
Anyway, you don't want chaotic evil for the do-as-I-please sort of character. True neutral encompasses both chars who have a philosophical belief in balance, and the kind of chars who don't favor any side in a conflict (apart from their own, perhaps) and just go with the flow. If you would decide whether or not to save the village from being burned down on a case-by-case basis, you're TN. CE characters should burn it down themselves to teach those stupid villagers a lesson about making their houses flammable.
Kassil the Mithril Dragon December 16, 2004 08:07
First comment: 23 July, 2004 9 comments written
...Not another 'Alignment is bad!'
'No it isn't!'
'Yes it is!'
'Isn't!'
'Is!'

...Kind of argument...

...Sheesh.
Get over it, either way, and accept that you don't have to accept it, even if someone else does.
Sure, compared to Harsh Reality, alignment is absurd.
Heroic fantasy (read: the D&D system) is intended to have a starkly defined Good and Evil. Religions try the same thing, and get the same arguments against the classification.

Oh well.

Can we move on, please, without going over the details of an argument that has been discussed a trillion times already?
Crawler December 16, 2004 14:43
First comment: 24 August, 2004 57 comments written
Sorry, didn't know this pigeonhole would turn out to be such a Pandora's box =)
Mantar December 17, 2004 08:35
First comment: 17 June, 2004 197 comments written
Heh! Good one.
Fathead April 13, 2006 01:44
First comment: 1 April, 2006 1136 comments written
Fer me, alignment is arbitrary.
Sirbina August 28, 2006 20:23
First comment: 26 August, 2006 11 comments written
If you're going to play D&D and you don't like the alignment system, play without it. Pen and paper RPGs come with guidelines, not hard and fast rules.
Grognor April 7, 2007 06:42
First comment: 4 April, 2007 1161 comments written
Could a game of Nethack exist inside itself?

(a)pply
apply what? q- a computer
run Nethack.exe
you play nethack.
The real you is beginning to get hungry. You make your way to the fridge. Your mom asks you to take the garbage out.
Really attack your mom? (yn)(n)y
Your mom gets angry! Your mom hits! --More--
Your mom hits! Your mom hits! You die... --More--
But wait! Your amulet"The complete Amulet can keep off all the things that make
people unhappy -- jealousy, bad temper, pride, disagreeableness,
greediness, selfishness, laziness. Evil spirits, people called
them when the Amulet was made. Don't you think it would be nice
to have it?"
"Very," said the children, quite without enthusiasm.
"And it can give you strength and courage."
"That's better," said Cyril.
"And virtue."
"I suppose it's nice to have that," said Jane, but not with much
interest.
"And it can give you your heart's desire."
"Now you're talking," said Robert.
        [ The Story of the Amulet, by Edith Nesbit ]

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begins to glow!
You apologize, take the garbage out, and resume NetHack. --More--
Your GPA decreases! Your GPA decreases! You die... --More--
HK June 20, 2007 18:15
First comment: 1 June, 2007 309 comments written
Grognor, that happens with me sometimes.
Except I`m homeschooled and I resist the urge to attack my mom.

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